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The CPX-3 and CPX-4 is now available in 380 with less recoil. Do it outside with the gun pointing at the ground and mind your hand positions. The DB380 is a cheap subcompact 380 pocket pistol. Yes, he and others are social media whizkids, but not firearm experts. As a long, and I do mean long time P3AT owner, you must be one of those anti Keltec trolls that hated them from the start. Empties wouldnt just fail to clear the slide; theyd never leave the chamber. Must be the best gun ever. Because they just have a vendetta against these manufacturers? Well, yes, Gigli did suck, but that wasnt known until later. I have two of the Picos. In light of that, the valuable service you claim hes doing may well be smoke and mirrors. BATTLE OF THE RUGER .380S: LCP VS. LCP II. I have a SCCY too. (dead serious) took it right back to the store. Did they succeed? To quote his expertise is laughable. It is considerably lighter and smoother than the original LCP and other comparable .380 pistols, and it also features the Glock-style bladed safety that must first be depressed in order for the trigger to be pulled. ONE STAR FOR YOU! kind of reviews. What good is a lifetime warranty if they dont fix it??? These guns shoot any ammo I have fed it. The trigger is exactly like a double action revolver. While the LCP II will accept the same 6 round magazines as the original LCP, it also will not slide lock on the last round with those magazines because they were not designed to do so. Literally, it is.) M&P Shield EZ .380 6. The S&W MP EZ 380 read the reviews even on the Glock site they praise the SW MP 380 EZ I just cant see myself ever paying for a gun called SuCCY! No aluminum. Wecantdislike shooting it so much that well never practice with it. Because they werent reliable? I have heard the PiCO may be TOO small. I love my CPX-1. I got a Glock26, and have been happy ever since! Im not saying every single person who votes needs to leave a full, detailed review, but encouraging people to at least leave a couple pros/cons would be most helpful. A local guy shot a home invader with a SCCY. And buying likes is one definite way to abuse it. Lets find out by comparing it to the original LCP. There is nothing copyrightable in those designs. Unfortunately, each of these pistols and others in their class suffer from a number of serious flaws. He rated it 2.5 stars out of 5 and wrote, I dont hate it. Still, thats pretty tepid, and our readers rate it well below average. You get two shots, a single-action-only Ive been averaging one light hammer strike every magazine or two, that requires a second pull of the trigger to ignite, regardless of ammo brand. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg I assume the reason the CM40 sucks is similar. what a waste of time. I have SCCY CPX2 Best gun ever Just keep it clean 400 rounds down range 400 rounds on target Ill bet my life on my cpx2. But for a handgun of last resort, I prefer an Airweight. No issues to complain about. Shooting (And Finally Breaking) the SCCY CPX-2: http://youtu.be/YzYm_CqMZG8. No problem for me but then I have fired well over 100,000 rounds in 50 years. There are many more maligned pocket guns and sub-compacts on the market than these two. The CM40 being smaller and lighter might exhibit a little more, but its not unmanageable. So now I have a paperweight in the shape of a gun ! If you spend any amount of time online, youve seen product rating systems on Amazon, Netflix, Yelp, etc., usually in the form of star ratings. It was his first time shooting it (or any gun) ever. I tried to get Gunsgunsguns.net to pop up-no dice in 5 or 6 tries. Or the Springfield EMP (Though mine runs awesome, they are known for manufacturing problems). Recently we exchanged and shot each others weapon, I have a Taurus LCP 380. WebThe Roughneck series of derringers are similar in appearance to the well-known Bond Arms Backup models, but are more affordable. In the case of the SCCY they are worth it. I just dont see the silent u in that. Not cheap, but beautifully crafted. He didnt even require them to be positive. Most people who love the P3-AT just carry it but dont use it. Mostly new firearm buyers that buy into all the advertising and ridiculous internet junk. Note to self, Get to the range! Built like a tank. I understand its not for everyone but its a good quality firearm with excellent customer service. Therefore, if you want the slide to lock back, you need to use the magazines that were made specifically for the LCP II. I bought a SCCY CPX-2 a few months ago . This crowdsourced data points arent perfect, but if a product gets a statistically significant number of votes, we get a pretty good idea of how it stacks up thanks to the wisdom-of-crowds phenomenon. You do not get a small light pistol without trade offs. i cant effectively describe the feel of the action; except to say it was similar to dragging a cinder block up a gravel hill. Stovepiped and double fed left and right, and Kel-Tec didnt want to lift a finger without me footing the bill for shipping. While larger .380 pistols such as the Walther PPK/S, Walther PK380, Bersa Thunder 380, and Glock 42 dont have this problem, the truly small pocket pistols such as the LCP and TCP most certainly do. +1. yes the Masss might love them, but who the hell are the masses? Kahr makes a lot of pocket guns, and several of them rate really well. Sorry, but NOT my Kahr. The sights on the LCP II are built into the top of the slide like its predecessor. Its fun to shoot really, PS: visited the site again, feeling slightly guilty for harping on the polling validity-. Given how clannish and brand-loyal a lot of gunners are, it wouldnt shock me if about half the votes against the SCCY were cast because it wasnt a Glock 43, or something equally biased and stupid. You have to use the recommened ammo in the manual. The cobra looks very similar to a firearm my mother owns. Unfortunately, my DB380 experience has mirrored that ofmany of our peers. Total joke. It had some issues ejecting, but a trip to the factory corrected the issues. Happy ending. As soon as I saw the title I knew the Pico would be on the list. I just went through your site and clicked a one star on every gun over $500 and a 10 star on every gun under $500 with my only basis being I dont currently have an expendable $500 in my pocket and I dont like them because they are out of my budget Just kidding, I didnt, but anyone out there could do it, which is why I think your system is incredibly flawed by not at least holding reviewers to having to list a reason. For instance, I have owned 4 lcps and the pico will run circles around them. It therefore must perform when called upon. No problem with the SCCY at all. Did it require a break in, a fluff & buff, a whole plethora of different ammo to get my approval? Voted by handgun magazine as a top pistol and great manufacturer. Ive heard too many bad comments and complaints about the I.O. Three weeks before it was even released. Sorry, with all due respect to Mr Henson, I wish you the best of luck, and while I see how this might help some buyers sort from the thousands of gun models, its only a start. Probably have about 2500 rounds through it. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Her gun was unloaded while the thugs were not. My advice. You do not have one clue about what you are talking about. They are meant to be defensive arms that can be easily carried in the pocket. Best 380 Ive ever had. Man this Truth about guns article really burns me up. Nice little write up- and way to plug your site. I give them a failing grade because neither gun reliably goes bang each time you pull the trigger on factory ammo. I fire a couple of magazines a month thru them so as not to get too rusty . I do feel though that its a little too light for a 9mm caliber . Nicer than the price would indicate. Man, all I can say is when you mentioned the Pico, you sure messed up on that one. You want an example of why internet polls are not representative? Its elegant lines and precision engineering have a timeless appeal. Thank-you. The thing stinks. The biggest improvement, by far, is the trigger pull. Expand your opinion to something legitimate and/or constructive with first hand knowledge. This is like the buzzfeed of gun articles. It is a small barrel gun NOT a target gun. In fact, yanking the mag should tell him to learn the gun. Ive put plenty of rounds through my p3at and its reliable. The Beretta Pico is probably one of Berettas biggest blunders. Otherwise you will just get a ton of, Wait, that gun is not a GLOCK! Maybe something like this? In fact, reading them, even with comments, is quite nearly a waste of time. WebMAC Website & PrimaryArms website link: http://www.militaryarms.orgJoin Patreon and support MAC! These arent Rambo guns, they are self defense guns. .380 pocket pistols are traditionally difficult to fire for a number of reasons: in addition to the horrid trigger pulls like we just discussed, they also suffer from being extremely snappy due to their small size. Take the guns in this article, for example: did people downvote them because they were too uncomfortable to fire? I met Leghorn at a Range Day last year and he knows little about handling a weapon. As in best gun LOL. Nonetheless, the fact that they are difficult to shoot can be a major problem for training and self-defense purposes. Its on the edge of what Id consider using for self-defense, but Id recommend trying to move up to 9mm if possible. Ive no complaints. You find that to be an effective way to make friends and influence people? I laughed when I got to the CM40. :p. People generally avoid spam masquerading as journalism. This list would have been more valid if it had included the KIMBER SOLO, This website is better than the comedy channel. Avoid Straight Blowback pistols These have a barrel permanently affixed to the frame versus the Delayed Blowback pistols, who have a barrel th But if carry options are limited to just a pocket carry for you (i.e. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I have literally spoken to no one that has said anything positive about the Pico. Actually the Hellcat felt better in the hand and was more accurate for me with a better sight than other micro pistols. Keltec P-11 listed as 10+1 on THEIR website. Springfield operator: 5.2 Tiny, safety features, serious calibers, etc. Only drawback is the 2D trigger. I really wanted to like the gun. With pocket pistols you get so much more in terms of everything for every little uptick in size you go. Look at the back of the slide. Never jammed on me or on my daughter who went to the range with me. How is the P3AT above the middle of the list? OMG! you have to wear shorts with a tucked in shirt), the LCP II will be a great option. I would bet my life on this smallish, nice looking pistol. I also have the Kahr. Hellcat 380. Sorry, until you have vetted ratings, the site is nothing more than adspam. Though my CW380 was also unreliable and pinched my finger after firing. How is it possibly at the top of the list? I am surprised high point 380 & 9mm werent included in your list. Ruger LCR Pistol Ruger LCR Ruger LCR .357 Mag. Fed, fired and ejected all the ammo I put in it. The Type 94 Shiki Kenju. Sure just After the 200 round break in if you have any, then yes you should be pissed. Pick up a Taurus 738 tcp and it is super snappy vs the cw380. Sean, I cannot find documentation of John Lott having bought reviews on Amazon. Wouldnt take much time for an employee or contractor of one of these manufacturers to buff up the ratings, or down rate a competitor. Remarkable build quality. Do not yank the magazine friends. Uh no. http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. We even joked that we needed to start a Pocket Gun Palma match. And I especially enjoy its clever name. IO stopped making them and moved to Florida. However, they are among the worst guns for concealed carry. Still cant find that silent u in it to make it sky. Worst complaint is the trigger, but a lot of dry fires with snap caps and you condition yourself to the long reset. The trigger seem to be the trouble people have with it. This only naturally makes it more difficult to fire properly like we just talked about. How is the pot metal Cobra #2? You must not even be able to read. Its not. .380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) This ammunition round was first introduced by Colt back in 1908, to use in its new Colt Model 1908, which was a compact, hammerless semi-automatic pistol. Oh shit! One for range and one for carry. I think by nature all auto pocket pistols suck. Only time I tried one I did not like it. For those of you looking specifically for a concealed carry pistol, hold off on buying a Glock just yet. My Airweight has been dehorned and edges softened, carries so comfortably with a Hip Grip that I often forget about it. In a fight you wont notice it. But again, the people have spoken: the Pico sucks. It is designed as a personal defense arm not a target pistol or a plunker. The mag will spring out when done correctly. The Mary Rosh controversy (where Lott used that pseudonym to answer critics and to post one favorable review of More Guns Less Crime) is discussed. I can do it blind folded. I find that many pistols jam because of a defective magazine thats not feeding properly. Now I feel like I have t fire the XDS 9MM again before I trust it, Really shook me up when I casually pressed the trigger and got a light clunk. But this article should be called Articles to avoid like the Plague. I bought one of the .380 Seecamps when they first came out. Can't argue with Sig, but I'd also add Beretta to that list, both the There really is NO WAY to know if the rating is based on a real, objective assessment of the firearm. The small NAA revolvers make a good back up weapon, I own three of the little guns. (I call the SCCY, my Sunday go-to-meeting piece. Its definitely not perfect but it is far from the worst gun Ive owned. S&W Bodyguard .380 7. Even your most expensive 1911s, Colts, S&W and Glocks will jam or miss fire from time to time. good amount of rounds it is a damn good carry gun. So there. My God, have you really shot or even handled one? The trigger is long and has some over travel but its very smooth. If you have to rely on Counter Clerks for advice on firearms tells me quite a bit. I trust the Colt, Kahr, and Rugers, but I would like more power. Ive owned a CPX 2 for about a year and we shoot every weekend. It has the stopping power necessary to approach a threat, while still maintaining the size required for comfortable everyday carry. In contrast to this, the original LCP did not lock back on the final round. They pretty much invented the theory of if you get a good one its good, but when you get a bad one its bad. Considering the price point of the SCCY, its fit, finish and functionality is excellent. My shooting buddy has an LCP. Obviously you really do not get into pocket guns or spend time with folks that do. Ill definitely be checking it out. It is accurate, easy to shoot, recoil is manageable. Definitelythe first Gen 1 models had problemsHowever, the second Gen 2 models are fine. Have owned and shot most of them. and wrote the entire line off. My Kahr is a nice but, but Finicky as heck. And they didnt offer to just replace the thing, which is what I would do rather than leaving a dissatisfied customer wholl then post a comment like this on the internet. anyone can vote on any gun whether they own or have even seen the gun in person. The price is right, but the performance and ratings just arent. I have put about 2000 rounds through them 100% reliable so far. The one I had was utter shit. Except for a derringer but that is because the prior owner dry fired it which you are to never do. just kidding 32,490 views Aug 21, 2021 1.1K Dislike Share nutnfancy 852K subscribers Another ranting reviewoh man we do not like Of course the gun was the new upgraded model. WebThe .380 Auto (ACP) Pistol is most often used for self-defense, and is a particularly good choice for concealed carry thanks to its small size. Small, accurate and reliable. I limited this list to the bottom six guns to reduce room for disagreement and keep it simple. (3) Often in the comment sections of user reviews online, you see stuff being dinged a star or two from superfluous stuff. Reliability is certainly suspect with a few of the .380's. My dad bought a CPX-whichever has the safety about a month ago; Ill have to ask him what he thinks of it next time we talk. No thanks. Its been reliable since then for me. My Cpx 2 is not 100% reliable, but I did not expect it to be for $250. For College Campuses! Far too many people have shot themselves or objects in their house loading a NAA revolver because they didnt pay attention to safety instructions. It shot pretty well overall, but the trigger sucked. More than ever, the PPK is a statement of sophistication. Ed Brown alpha elite: 3.2. Or has been suggested earlier you can just go snub nosed revolver. The SCCY has one of the best rating out of these guns on your post. Also LCP. The design was intended to produce more accuracy while only sacrificing marginal power. Their Reviewers have alot of feed issues due to lack of knowledge of proper grip. It shoots a powerful pistol cartridge in a light gun. Actually bought a second one. SCCY CPX-2 is a very good gun. If you use ratings to determine which gun works or doesnt work for you, you are a fool. Did he shoot various ammo or run them for accuracy. Super long heavy pull, which is understandable on a DA only no safety gun. In other words, its not pleasant to shot at all. I was also surprised to find the CM40 rated so poorly. When I told him I never have a problem with my P-11 or my wifes Ruger SR-9, he then said maybe its the ammo. The guns with the lower number of people voting are probably irrelevant no matter what their scores are. http://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/ppk/ Very small would suggest either real fanboys or real haters. Any kind of ammo. The Pico is one of the most mild shooting pocket guns you will ever shoot. Every trigger Ive ever pulled is better than the LCP. How do they perform? (Though they have better triggers than the early LCPs, thats not enough), You should try mine. So, pocket guns being inherently hard to shoot and prone to limp wristing will experience failures. My hands are simply too large for the tiny Ruger. The CM9 is a great gun. Women need to be told about the woman in Birmingham who was being robbed and pulled out a gun. Go to Genitron and compare.And very little muzzle flip. For their size they are accurate but these are not range guns (especially the CM40). Unlike several riflesOh wait I might get a 22mag but not for big money. I owned a SCCY CPX-2 (notice the past tense). Glad to see it was noted as rating highly, and not on the list. I had a CPX-2, functionality and reliability i couldnt complain about. I bought a used SCCY CPX-2. You have entered an incorrect email address! For this purpose, I actually switched to an NAA pug. Kahr P380 is the definitive pocket gun. It smacks you hand, mostly due to the 2 finger grip. Got the Hellcat thrown in when I bought another gun. Thus it works as a safety (just like a S&W revolver). Have you ever even shot one? I would even venture to say its a 50/50 gamble when buying a Kel Tec. I have had my CPX 2 and have shot many hundreds of rounds through it, no jams, no misfires, not really impressed with the rear sites, so I put a laser on it and it is accurate, I like not having a safety on it, but with 9 pounds of trigger pressure you do not need a safety. That gun, the TCP, gets pretty good marks everywhere Ive seen it reviewed, so I wouldnt expect it to show up on a pocket guns to avoid list. Years ago a mentor and I were at a range with an iron 30 plate/gong at 270 yards. In regards to the Cobra a lot of people dissing the gun are those who fire hollowpoints through it. SCCY Industries CPX-2 (4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes) This gun is budget-friendly Ruger markets the trigger as having a six pound pull. YES, of course Id rate the G19 at least from a practical, hardcore perspective an obviously more robust, serious combat-capable CC piece, but when you think about it, here I am comparing a Glock 19 to a SCCY CPX-2 for certain situations and that HAS to be a compliment to the SCCY, in an offhand way (and dont accuse me of being a Glock fanboy I own diverse alternatives, and was actually very slow by choice getting into the Glock game.) Jimenez was one former name for Cobra also Loren was also a former name . Thats what made my wife choose a Sig P238, which I carry occasionally. . Its manageable. The guy did a service to the gun community by creating this website and writing a cautionary article, and some assholes gotta focus on the self-promotion. And Rugers, but its a 50/50 gamble when buying a GLOCK life on smallish. 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