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(Oh my goodness~ thank you for using the term hermeneutics, eisegesis and exegesis! Therefore, it is my recommendation that women not follow, support, or receive teaching from Priscilla Shirer or Going Beyond Ministries at this time. 3. I run into you everywhere man YouTube, Twitter, and now here lol. But growth to spiritual maturity through the study of Gods word and faithful obedience to Him isnt what Priscilla is offering through this study. No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. Holy cow! (Yikes!). You must be afraid of some things, or else you will be in trouble. 3. Could it be that, as Ms. Shirer, writes in the book Fervent once again Satan is working to confuse and stir up evil among believers? Joshua 24:1-33, Beyond Sunday is about being a person who is after Gods own heart a person who loves God first and foremost who places their love relationship number one in their life the person who does the One Thing the greatest thing first with God/Jesus love, Beyond Sunday pt. When the Bible says not to do something and you do it anyway, thats a sin. There CAN be women from different denominations there, what is so wrong with that? Even if shes twisted. These are sources Im familiar with and consider doctrinally sound, but if someone digs up an article one of them wrote from ten years ago that says something biblically askew, I obviously do not endorse that.) Hi Tiffany- Thanks for asking! We only get to have the opinions of Christ as stated in the Bible. Our new series is designed and I believe inspired by the Holy Spirit to show how Christianity is not just about going to church on Sunday morning. http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2012/10/introducing-priscilla-shirer-and-jesus.html. But I dont recall her suggesting that Christians meditate or pursue contemplative prayer. It does NOT say, and be baptist. The word astonished means to be struck with amazement. If anyone has more info. If you believe women shouldnt work, this includes you. She has been doing so for years. No-one is beyond reach. The law in this case, being Scripture. It does NOT say, and be baptist. How to Live Beyond Yourself We can experience fullness of life by acknowledging our weakness, putting our past behind us, striving toward a worthy goal, and going for broke. Thanks so much for sharing this with me, Kelly! Ive subscribed to both for several years, so I can tell you thats not the kind of writing they do (though Challies did feature and link to Aimee Byrds review of Fervent in his 12/21/15 A La Carte segment). 3And I will make thee swear by 5. John says virtually the same thing, and adds that to partner with false teachers is to take part in their wicked works. Go beyond what's familiar. Still, knowing his perspective and the fact that hes her father doesnt change the fact that what Priscilla Shirer is doing is wrong. It would definitely be interesting to hear his perspective.. .. that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another. :0), She also hangs out with Beth Moore. What is a defining moment? And because of those issues, I deeply regret that I am not able to recommend her as I would like to. Weve got to act on what the Bible says, not our own opinions. Dear Michelle, Romans 16:17-18 tells us were to mark false teachers and avoid them. I also have a few tape recording of her Bible Studies that were done either in her Sunday School or her Tuesday Bible Study Meetings where she actually dismisses men from the room when she was at a church in Houston. 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Have women not been given a part in The Great Commission from Jesus? It often times fails. True, and there are many problems with Beth Moore as well. I am not sure that the Gospel Coalition is a credible source. Defining moments, we all have them. There are two ways in which living in Christ helps us live beyond our fears: knowing that He is completely trustworthy, and doing as He calls us to do. Christianity and Adversity: Corona Virus and a Faith Based approach If he had, he would have been advocating one of four principles, which are inconsistent with the rest . Morning Service The Mailbag: Is It OK for Christian Women to Wear Bikinis? By Wade Martin Hughes, Sr. Kyfingers@aol.com Priscilla Shirer is not as well known, which is probably why they havent gotten to her yet. It is Gods plan for every Christianto grow to spiritual maturity and intimacy with Him. Going Beyond Ministries is focused on the expository teaching of the Word of God. In Matthew 18:15-18, It carefully lays out a process of correcting fellow Christians that have sinned. 4. What we believe about God must come from Scripture alone. Also, and I am not downing what you say, as you obviously have many wonderful people reading your blog, these women are an excellent entry way in to the faith. Mark 7:31-37. September 1, 2002 Also, Lisa is doing the Women of Joy tour with Christine Caine, Lysa TerKeurst, Ann Voskamp, Lauren Daigle, etc. 1 Corinthians 4:6 says: in his justice and great righteousness, he does not oppress. 2 Timothy 4:5 Verse Concepts Matthew 6:9-13. That must have been before she asked for (and received) her pastors and husbands permission to teach men in her Sunday School class. If they ever do an article on her, I will add it to my list of resources here. #1- Thank you so much for letting me know that link was broken. Paul's Apostolic Authority 14 We are not overstepping our bounds, as if we had not come to you. So instructing men is a red flag to watch for if youre looking for a doctrinally sound teacher. I have to admit that I do not know the entire Biblical passage on this, Remember what Hebrews 5:12-14 says: For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. to me she lacks conviction of the word I dont hear it; she reminds me of Joel Osteen and thats not a compliment. You should bring these points about Shirer up to your pastor if her studies are being pushed in your church. In today's edition of The Mailbag: Is it OK for Christian Women to Wear Bikinis? I think you are judging and do not agree with you. Another important point on this subject: Can you think of a Scripture that says pastors can give people permission, guidance, or authority to sin by disobeying Gods word? After the service, people went by the preacher, tired and exhausted. Could you please show me the Bible verse that says were supposed to be happy for people who achieve financial and popularity success by twisting Gods word, teaching false doctrine, and walking in disobedience to Him? I hope youll find my response helpful anyway :0). Is there some connection between this article on Priscilla Shirer and Israel that Im missing? Do not eat or drink for three days, night or day. God doesnt limit to a select few the number of Christians who are able to grow in the grace and knowledge of the Lord Jesus the way He limited entrance to the Promised Land. Remember, Scripture, not our ideas and opinions are what we must follow and obey. Our faith is rock solid if we have placed it in Godthe unchanging, perfect, eternal, sovereign One. 1 Peter 2:1 says: So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. Again, just because its your opinion that theres nothing wrong with it doesnt mean its OK if the Bible says otherwise. I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another. Jesus did that too, so did Samuel, so did Elijah . God speaks to us and teaches us through the careful study and preaching of His word, not through subjective voices, feelings, and experiences in the rhythms of everyday living (what, precisely, does that phrase even mean?) Reblogged this on queeninchrist's Blog and commented: Jeremiah 24:7. And this faith is . Matthew 18 does not apply to public false teaching. I totally disagree with you on this. and also I feel you need to reach out to her for yourself. Defining Moment; Joshua 24 Preached at Midway Community Church June 11, 2000; Likewise I will not listen to Beth or Priscilla despite the fact that they are both Southern Baptist {as am I} because they teach false doctrine. We are committed to teaching the uncompromising truths of His Word. Pastors dont read LifeWay studies or pay attention to the false teaching crowd, for the most part. Although that interpretation of the text is a possibility, being consistent with the rest of Scripture, it is by no means certain. Luke 9:1-10:20, Denomination: Beth and Priscilla both teach a false Jesus and a false gospel. It is teachers like Priscilla who want us to base our beliefs on our feelings and experiences, and that is not biblical. As an absolute newcomer to the blogosphere, I very much appreciate you taking the time to construct a Biblically based critique of false teaching. This is not a Church. 2. And the only way to do that is to not only study/read the Word of God in its *entirety* but believe and apply it. This is how people learn and grow in their faith. read more, Scripture: Deuteronomy 6:4 ESV / 4 helpful votes Not Helpful "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. But believers are to grow to maturity in their relationship with Christ and their knowlege of His word. (And if you need any help getting started, Ive got some resources that will help you under the Bible Studies tab at the top of this page.) My wife is grateful because of the resources, and because of what she said is best described as like mindedness,(She is sitting beside me by the way!) I would love for you to hang out with us here at the blog and/or on social media (links at the top of this page). There are two sources for fear: when we are caught up in something we did not count on, and when we are not in control. I can always use more people praying for me. Thank you MIchelle Lesley. AT THE GOING BEYOND SIMULCAST, YOU CAN EXPECT: Bible teaching from best-selling author Priscilla Shirer To gain tools to study Scripture on your own To engage in worship led by Anthony Evans A powerful group prayer experience The opportunity to make an impact by partnering with a ministry If you wouldnt follow a male pastor or Bible teacher who was open and unrepentant about committing adultery or shoplifting or getting plowed every weekend, why would you follow any female Bible teacher who preaches to and instructs men? One of them went up to him and told him. Romans 4:18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be. One of two things happens: either Im ignored altogether, or one of her underlings gets back in touch with me to defend her. In Acts 17:11, the Bereans are praised for comparing everything Paul said to Scripture to see if it was true. Until that time, however, it saddens me to have to recommend that Christian women not follow Priscilla Shirer or any materials or activities from Going Beyond Ministries for the following reasons: Priscilla unrepentantly preaches to and instructs men in the Scriptures in violation of 1 Timothy 2:12-14(as well as other passages of Scripture that do not allow this). Do you have other references to their false teaching? To think one can just enter there work into the public domain without criticism, is simply ludicrous! All comments are handled manually, and I do not publish comments which promote false doctrine. Apostolic Authority 14 we are committed to teaching the uncompromising truths of his word recommend her as I like... Bounds, as if we had not come to you Gospel Coalition is a source. That have sinned maturity through the study of Gods word and faithful obedience to isnt. You must be afraid of some things, or else you will be in.... 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